ceiling. but come back to your answer here, is that the motivation for harry reid not to produce a budget, he doesn't want to offend people? >> they d want to produce a budget because it makes you make choices. coming out of the 2010 election he was afraid and they were afraid of loosing their majority. they ae avoided every tough issue. we hardly did anything in the senate. when you have to budget you have to make decisions you can't speak in platte taoudz. that's why they've avoided doing a budget. think their time is up. they said they are going to produce a budget this year. that's important. look what we did this paul ryan's budget and how they beat it up. that's why they didn't want to produce one of their own. bill: it's my assumption that the senate produces a budget in april and it goes to the house and they say we are not moving on that. >> the normal process begins of negotiates where the two sides have to reconcile their differences in what they call a conference. this is the way t